[PAA-Webteam] PAA domain names renewals

Submitted by PAAMember on October 28, 2005 - 1:01pm. ::

Some of the domain names we registered for PAA
are due for renewal in about 3 weeks. These are:

progressiveactionalliance.org
paa-tx.org
progressive-action-alliance.org

In addition, I registered the following domains
in January, so we won't have to worry about them
for a while:
progressiveactionalliance.com
progressiveactionalliance.net

I registered all the above ones through Verio,
for $9.95/year each. Unless someone sees a
reason to change domain name registrars, I'll
just stick with them when we renew. The cheapest
places I've seen are only $2-3 less than this and
I don't know how reputable they are or whether it
would be worth the trouble to change. Verio is a
US and Australian company in case anyone cares.

Do we want to renew all of the above domain
names, and perhaps add paa-tx.com and paa-tx.net?
Maybe even paatx.org?

In case anyone has forgotten, we registered the
.com and .net versions of
progressiveactionalliance.org so no one else
could grab them, and also so we could make sure
that anyone who typed in any of these other
variations would get to the right web site.
(They all point to
progressiveactionalliance.org.) We haven't done
that yet for paa-tx.org, though.

At least with our registrar, the "www." before
each of our domain names is optional and it
doesn't matter whether people type it in or not.
(With some registrars, it apparently does matter.)

I guess everyone remembers that paa.org, paa.com,
paa.net, and paa.us were all taken by other
organizations and are not available.

We're not really using
progressive-action-alliance.org and I don't know
if anyone would ever try typing this in, so we
may not need it. It is easier to read, though,
and can be used on printed flyers, etc. if we
want. Of course, the paa-tx.org is shorter and
may be easier to use, as long as people don't
miss the "-" when they type in the domain name.
This may be a good reason to add paatx.org, and
drop progressive-action-alliance.org, especially
if we want to keep using paa-tx.org?

Google, Yahoo, Lycos, and MSN all find
www.progressiveactionalliance.org when you search
for progressive action alliance, so that's good.

As soon as we get all the content moved over from
our old web site we can point
progressiveactionalliance.org to our new web site
at paa-tx.org, and also point the other domain
names there.

So, which domains do we want to renew and/or add?
And is it OK to stay with Verio?

See the renewal notice I got from Verio below, if you are interested.

Bill

>Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 03:32:09 -0400 (EDT)
>To:
>Cc:
>From: "Verio Inc."
>
>YOUR DOMAIN NAME RENEWAL DATE IS ALMOST HERE!
>
>Dear Valued Customer,
>
>Thank you for choosing Verio


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Submitted by PAAMember on November 5, 2005 - 10:00am.

this sounds reasonable.  is there a way to make the short one bounce over to the long one, so that the main one is the long one?  or, does it not matter?  i'm just thinking of having to enter/change things on both instead of just on one.  r



All:



My $.02 --- keep TWO domain names



progressiveactioalliance.org



and



paa-tx.org



Having more is confusing.



Having both a short and a long name is convenient.



Submitted by PAAMember on October 28, 2005 - 2:00pm.

This is not my area of expertise but, I want to throw my two cents in anyway.

You should probably register enough names that people find us when they want but, the search engines finding us should ease any troubles in that arena.


However, from a branding perspective, it is important to be consistent. We should pick the one web address we want people to use, associate with, that is the most memorable, easiest to give out, or whatever and, use that same name on everything. Make it our public web identity. It's ok to have multiple addresses to catch people who mis-remember the address but, giving out multiple addresses decreases our brand strength. I know I'm suggesting terribly capitalistic strategies here but, they do work and we need to use all the tools in our toolbox. I'd probably recommend this address as the public brand....


www.ProgressiveActionAlliance.org


I did just try this address using the capital letters and my version of internet explorer had no trouble navigating to our site.


In the end, I will be content with whatever you guys decide.


Happy Friday!


Brenda

From:  Bill Crosier <>
To:  PAA Web Team <>
CC:  Brenda Fackler <>
Subject:  PAA domain names renewals
Date:  Fri, 28 Oct 2005 12:09:23 -0500
Some of the domain names we registered for PAA are due for renewal in about 3 weeks.  These are:

progressiveactionalliance.org
paa-tx.org
progressive-action-alliance.org

In addition, I registered the following domains in January, so we won't have to worry about them for a while:
progressiveactionalliance.com
progressiveactionalliance.net

I registered all the above ones through Verio, for $9.95/year each.  Unless someone sees a reason to change domain name registrars, I'll just stick with them when we
renew.  The cheapest places I've seen are only $2-3 less than this and I don't know how reputable they are or whether it would be worth the trouble to change.  Verio is a US and Australian company in case anyone cares.

Do we want to renew all of the above domain names, and perhaps add paa-tx.com and paa-tx.net? Maybe even paatx.org?

In case anyone has forgotten, we registered the .com and .net versions of progressiveactionalliance.org so no one else could grab them, and also so we could make sure that anyone who typed in any of these other variations would get to the right web site. (They all point to progressiveactionalliance.org.)  We haven't done that yet for paa-tx.org, though.

At least with our registrar, the "www." before each of our domain names is optional and it doesn't matter whether people type it in or not. (With some
registrars, it apparently does matter.)

I guess everyone remembers that paa.org, paa.com, paa.net, and paa.us were all taken by other organizations and are not available.

We're not really using progressive-action-alliance.org and I don't know if anyone would ever try typing this in, so we may not need it.  It is easier to read, though, and can be used on printed flyers, etc. if we want.  Of course, the paa-tx.org is shorter and may be easier to use, as long as people don't miss the "-" when they type in the domain name. This may be a good reason to add paatx.org, and drop progressive-action-alliance.org, especially if we want to keep using paa-tx.org?

Google, Yahoo, Lycos, and MSN all find www.progressiveactionalliance.org when you search for progressive action alliance, so that's good.

As soon as we get all the content moved over from our
old web site we can point progressiveactionalliance.org to our new web site at paa-tx.org, and also point the other domain names there.

So, which domains do we want to renew and/or add? And is it OK to stay with Verio?

See the renewal notice I got from Verio below, if you are interested.

Bill


>Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 03:32:09 -0400 (EDT)
>To:
>Cc:
>From: "Verio Inc." <>
>
>YOUR DOMAIN NAME RENEWAL DATE IS ALMOST HERE!
>
>Dear Valued Customer,
>
>Thank you for choosing Verio


Submitted by PAAMember on November 5, 2005 - 1:00am.

Submitted by PAAMember on November 5, 2005 - 3:00am.

My $.02 --- keep TWO domain names

progressiveactioalliance.org

and

paa-tx.org

Having more is confusing.

Having both a short and a long name is convenient.

C
> I don't believe we ever decided which domain names to renew/add.
> Suggestions?
>
>
> Obviously, we want to keep these at an absolute minimum, since we're
> using both of them:
> progressiveactionalliance.org
> paa-tx.org
>
>
> Soon, after we get the rest of the content moved over from the old
> (progressiveactionalliance.org) web site to the new one, we'll point
> both domain names to the new web site so you can get to it either way.
>
>
> However, I'm not sure what to do about the others.
>
>
> In addition to the above, we also have the following, which are all
> set to point to the progressiveactionalliance.org web site:
> progressive-action-alliance.org
> progressiveactionalliance.com
> progressiveactionalliance.net
>
>
> Do we want to add any others, to make it easier for people to find us
> in case they mis-type the URL, or to keep other groups from grabbing
> them? For example, we might register:
> paa-tx.com
> paa-tx.net
> paatx.org
> or whatever anyone else can think of that would be simpler.
>
>
> As Brenda mentioned, though, it is probably confusing to people to
> give out multiple URLs for our organization. The only reasons I see
> for registering other domains are to make sure people get to the right
> web site if they type in the wrong domain name (.com instead of .org,
> for example, or maybe if they leave out the "-" in paa-tx.org) and to
> reserve the names so no one else can register them.
>
>
> We've been using progressiveactionalliance.org or
> ProgressiveActionAlliance.org (they mean the same) in most of our
> flyers and advertising since we got started, but lately we've been
> telling people to go to paa-tx.org so they can get to the new web
> site, and I know that's confusing to people. So, shall we stick with
> ProgressiveActionAlliance.org on flyers, etc.? It's a lot to type in,
> but maybe easier to remember than paa-tx.org.
>
>
> Let's decide which domain names to renew (and add), I'll take care of
> getting that done, then Sarah and/or Charlie can get them all to point
> to the same web site.
>
>
> Remember, the domain registrar I'm using charges $9.95/year/name.
> Pretty cheap, but not zero, but I'll be glad to register any names
> y'all think we should reserve.
>
>
> Thanks--
> Bill
>
>
>
>
> At 12:48 PM -0500 10/28/05, Brenda Fackler wrote:
> > This is not my area of expertise but, I want to throw my two cents
> > in anyway.
> > You should probably register enough names that people find us when
> > they want but, the search engines finding us should ease any
> > troubles in that arena.
> > However, from a branding perspective, it is important to be
> > consistent. We should pick the one web address we want people to
> > use, associate with, that is the most memorable, easiest to give
> > out, or whatever and, use that same name on everything. Make it our
> > public web identity. It's ok to have multiple addresses to catch
> > people who mis-remember the address but, giving out multiple
> > addresses decreases our brand strength. I know I'm suggesting
> > terribly capitalistic strategies here but, they do work and we need
> > to use all the tools in our toolbox. I'd probably recommend this
> > address as the public brand....
> > www.ProgressiveActionAlliance.org
> > I did just try this address using the capital letters and my version
> > of internet explorer had no trouble navigating to our site.
> > In the end, I will be content with whatever you guys decide.
> > Happy Friday!
> > Brenda
> >
> > ____________________________________________________________
> > From: Bill Crosier
> > To: PAA Web Team
> > CC: Brenda Fackler
> > Subject: PAA domain names renewals
> > Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 12:09:23 -0500
> > Some of the domain names we registered for PAA are due for
> > renewal in about 3 weeks. These are:
> > progressiveactionalliance.org
> > paa-tx.org
> > progressive-action-alliance.org
> >
> > In addition, I registered the following domains in January,
> > so we won't have to worry about them for a while:
> > progressiveactionalliance.com
> > progressiveactionalliance.net
> >
> > I registered all the above ones through Verio, for
> > $9.95/year each. Unless someone sees a reason to change
> > domain name registrars, I'll just stick with them when we
> > renew. The cheapest places I've seen are only $2-3 less
> > than this and I don't know how reputable they are or whether
> > it would be worth the trouble to change. Verio is a US and
> > Australian company in case anyone cares.
> >
> > Do we want to renew all of the above domain names, and
> > perhaps add paa-tx.com and paa-tx.net? Maybe even paatx.org?
> >
> > In case anyone has forgotten, we registered the .com
> > and .net versions of progressiveactionalliance.org so no one
> > else could grab them, and also so we could make sure that
> > anyone who typed in any of these other variations would get
> > to the right web site. (They all point to
> > progressiveactionalliance.org.) We haven't done that yet
> > for paa-tx.org, though.
> >
> > At least with our registrar, the "www." before each of our
> > domain names is optional and it doesn't matter whether
> > people type it in or not. (With some registrars, it
> > apparently does matter.)
> >
> > I guess everyone remembers that paa.org, paa.com, paa.net,
> > and paa.us were all taken by other organizations and are not
> > available.
> >
> > We're not really using progressive-action-alliance.org and I
> > don't know if anyone would ever try typing this in, so we
> > may not need it. It is easier to read, though, and can be
> > used on printed flyers, etc. if we want. Of course, the
> > paa-tx.org is shorter and may be easier to use, as long as
> > people don't miss the "-" when they type in the domain name.
> > This may be a good reason to add paatx.org, and drop
> > progressive-action-alliance.org, especially if we want to
> > keep using paa-tx.org?
> >
> > Google, Yahoo, Lycos, and MSN all find
> > www.progressiveactionalliance.org when you search for
> > progressive action alliance, so that's good.
> >
> > As soon as we get all the content moved over from our old
> > web site we can point progressiveactionalliance.org to our
> > new web site at paa-tx.org, and also point the other domain
> > names there.
> >
> > So, which domains do we want to renew and/or add? And is it
> > OK to stay with Verio?
> >
> > See the renewal notice I got from Verio below, if you are
> > interested.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> > >Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 03:32:09 -0400 (EDT)
> > >To:
> > >Cc:
> > >From: "Verio Inc."
> > >
> > >YOUR DOMAIN NAME RENEWAL DATE IS ALMOST HERE!
> > >
> > >Dear Valued Customer,
> > >
> > >Thank you for choosing Verioís Domain Registration
> > Services! The
> > >following domain names are scheduled for renewal in 30
> > days:
> > >
> > > prog53 Domain Name Registra 1 years 1 9.95 9.95
> > 0%
> > >progressiveactionalliance.org
> > >prog53 Domain Name Registra 1 years 1 9.95 9.95
> > 0%
> > >paa-tx.org
> > >prog53 Domain Name Registra 1 years 1 9.95 9.95
> > 0%
> > >progressive-action-alliance.org
> > >
> > >
> > >Please review the above domain name(s) for accuracy.
> > >
> > >================================================================================
> > >Note that this e-mail message pertains ONLY to the renewal
> > of your
> > >domain name(s). It does NOT pertain to the renewal of your
> > web
> > >hosting account.
> > >================================================================================
> > >
> > >If you do not take any action either to renew or non-renew
> > your
> > >domain name(s) prior to the expiration date, Verio will try
> > to renew
> > >your domain name automatically by using the credit card
> > information
> > >that we have on file for your domain name account(s).
> > >
> > >- IMPORTANT -
> > >If your credit card information is not up-to-date, Verio
> > will be
> > >unable to process your domain name renewal. Therefore,
> > please read
> > >the following section carefully.
> > >
> > >
> > >HAVE YOU SWITCHED YOUR CREDIT CARD RECENTLY?
> > >--------------------------------------------
> > >Domain names can be renewed only through credit card
> > payments. If
> > >you have switched credit cards or you need to update your
> > credit
> > >card's information, follow the instructions in our support
> > document
> > >called "How do I edit credit card information?" You can
> > view that
> > >support document at the following Internet Address:
> > >
> > > http://www.verio.com/support/view_article.cfm?
> > doc_id=3754
> > >
> > >
> > >DOMAIN NAME RENEWAL and NON-RENEWAL INSTRUCTIONS
> > >------------------------------------------------
> > >The following Internet address provides you with direct
> > access to
> > >renew or non-renew your domain name(s):
> > >
> > >
> > >https://mmp1904.dulles19-verio.com/cgi-bin/secure/dnrAdmin?
> > queryuser=prog53&domain=progressiveactionalliance.org
> > >https://mmp1904.dulles19-verio.com/cgi-bin/secure/dnrAdmin?
> > queryuser=prog53&domain=paa-tx.org
> > >https://mmp1904.dulles19-verio.com/cgi-bin/secure/dnrAdmin?
> > queryuser=prog53&domain=progressive-action-alliance.org
> > > (account username and password required)
> > >
> > >If the domain name in the above-mentioned Internet address
> > is not
> > >pointing to the IP address that was originally issued to
> > your domain
> > >name account, replace the domain name in the above-
> > mentioned
> > >Internet address with the IP address of the main account.
> > The IP
> > >address of the main account is 199.239.254.34.
> > >
> > >If you renew a domain name BEFORE its expiration date, you
> > can renew
> > >for 1 to 9 years. We urge you to act promptly with regard
> > to
> > >renewing or non-renewing your domain name(s).
> > >
> > >If you do not take any action to renew, then Verio will try
> > to renew
> > >your domain name automatically one day prior to the
> > expiration date.
> > >If the auto-renewal is successful, your domain(s) will
> > renew for the
> > >same term as the original registration(s).
> > >
> > >For more information regarding domain name renewals, please
> > visit:
> > >
> > > http://www.verio.com/support/view_article.cfm?
> > doc_id=3796
> > >
> > >
> > >REFUNDS
> > >-------
> > >Note that there are no refunds for domain name renewals.
> > >
> > ...


Submitted by PAAMember on November 5, 2005 - 8:00pm.

I like Charlie's idea of keeping the original and the short.
L


Submitted by PAAMember on November 5, 2005 - 3:00pm.

ditto - my only suggestion is to perhaps make sure that we also
register the .coms and possibly .nets of both of the domains below.
thx,

On Nov 5, 2005, at 1:43 AM, Charlie Lindahl wrote:

> All:
>
> My $.02 --- keep TWO domain names
>
> progressiveactioalliance.org
>
> and
>
> paa-tx.org
>
> Having more is confusing.
>
> Having both a short and a long name is convenient.
>
> C
>
>> I don't believe we ever decided which domain names to renew/add.
>> Suggestions?
>>
>>
>> Obviously, we want to keep these at an absolute minimum, since we're
>> using both of them:
>> progressiveactionalliance.org
>> paa-tx.org
>>
>>
>> Soon, after we get the rest of the content moved over from the old
>> (progressiveactionalliance.org) web site to the new one, we'll point
>> both domain names to the new web site so you can get to it either
>> way.
>>
>>
>> However, I'm not sure what to do about the others.
>>
>>
>> In addition to the above, we also have the following, which are all
>> set to point to the progressiveactionalliance.org web site:
>> progressive-action-alliance.org
>> progressiveactionalliance.com
>> progressiveactionalliance.net
>>
>>
>> Do we want to add any others, to make it easier for people to find us
>> in case they mis-type the URL, or to keep other groups from grabbing
>> them? For example, we might register:
>> paa-tx.com
>> paa-tx.net
>> paatx.org
>> or whatever anyone else can think of that would be simpler.
>>
>>
>> As Brenda mentioned, though, it is probably confusing to people to
>> give out multiple URLs for our organization. The only reasons I see
>> for registering other domains are to make sure people get to the
>> right
>> web site if they type in the wrong domain name (.com instead of .org,
>> for example, or maybe if they leave out the "-" in paa-tx.org) and to
>> reserve the names so no one else can register them.
>>
>>
>> We've been using progressiveactionalliance.org or
>> ProgressiveActionAlliance.org (they mean the same) in most of our
>> flyers and advertising since we got started, but lately we've been
>> telling people to go to paa-tx.org so they can get to the new web
>> site, and I know that's confusing to people. So, shall we stick with
>> ProgressiveActionAlliance.org on flyers, etc.? It's a lot to type
>> in,
>> but maybe easier to remember than paa-tx.org.
>>
>>
>> Let's decide which domain names to renew (and add), I'll take care of
>> getting that done, then Sarah and/or Charlie can get them all to
>> point
>> to the same web site.
>>
>>
>> Remember, the domain registrar I'm using charges $9.95/year/name.
>> Pretty cheap, but not zero, but I'll be glad to register any names
>> y'all think we should reserve.
>>
>>
>> Thanks--
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> At 12:48 PM -0500 10/28/05, Brenda Fackler wrote:
>>
>>> This is not my area of expertise but, I want to throw my two cents
>>> in anyway.
>>> You should probably register enough names that people find us when
>>> they want but, the search engines finding us should ease any
>>> troubles in that arena.
>>> However, from a branding perspective, it is important to be
>>> consistent. We should pick the one web address we want people to
>>> use, associate with, that is the most memorable, easiest to give
>>> out, or whatever and, use that same name on everything. Make it our
>>> public web identity. It's ok to have multiple addresses to catch
>>> people who mis-remember the address but, giving out multiple
>>> addresses decreases our brand strength. I know I'm suggesting
>>> terribly capitalistic strategies here but, they do work and we need
>>> to use all the tools in our toolbox. I'd probably recommend this
>>> address as the public brand....
>>> www.ProgressiveActionAlliance.org
>>> I did just try this address using the capital letters and my version
>>> of internet explorer had no trouble navigating to our site.
>>> In the end, I will be content with whatever you guys decide.
>>> Happy Friday!
>>> Brenda
>>>
>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>> From: Bill Crosier
>>> To: PAA Web Team
>>> CC: Brenda Fackler
>>> Subject: PAA domain names renewals
>>> Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 12:09:23 -0500
>>> Some of the domain names we registered for PAA are due for
>>> renewal in about 3 weeks. These are:
>>> progressiveactionalliance.org
>>> paa-tx.org
>>> progressive-action-alliance.org
>>>
>>> In addition, I registered the following domains in January,
>>> so we won't have to worry about them for a while:
>>> progressiveactionalliance.com
>>> progressiveactionalliance.net
>>>
>>> I registered all the above ones through Verio, for
>>> $9.95/year each. Unless someone sees a reason to change
>>> domain name registrars, I'll just stick with them when we
>>> renew. The cheapest places I've seen are only $2-3 less
>>> than this and I don't know how reputable they are or whether
>>> it would be worth the trouble to change. Verio is a US and
>>> Australian company in case anyone cares.
>>>
>>> Do we want to renew all of the above domain names, and
>>> perhaps add paa-tx.com and paa-tx.net? Maybe even paatx.org?
>>>
>>> In case anyone has forgotten, we registered the .com
>>> and .net versions of progressiveactionalliance.org so no one
>>> else could grab them, and also so we could make sure that
>>> anyone who typed in any of these other variations would get
>>> to the right web site. (They all point to
>>> progressiveactionalliance.org.) We haven't done that yet
>>> for paa-tx.org, though.
>>>
>>> At least with our registrar, the "www." before each of our
>>> domain names is optional and it doesn't matter whether
>>> people type it in or not. (With some registrars, it
>>> apparently does matter.)
>>>
>>> I guess everyone remembers that paa.org, paa.com, paa.net,
>>> and paa.us were all taken by other organizations and are not
>>> available.
>>>
>>> We're not really using progressive-action-alliance.org and I
>>> don't know if anyone would ever try typing this in, so we
>>> may not need it. It is easier to read, though, and can be
>>> used on printed flyers, etc. if we want. Of course, the
>>> paa-tx.org is shorter and may be easier to use, as long as
>>> people don't miss the "-" when they type in the domain name.
>>> This may be a good reason to add paatx.org, and drop
>>> progressive-action-alliance.org, especially if we want to
>>> keep using paa-tx.org?
>>>
>>> Google, Yahoo, Lycos, and MSN all find
>>> www.progressiveactionalliance.org when you search for
>>> progressive action alliance, so that's good.
>>>
>>> As soon as we get all the content moved over from our old
>>> web site we can point progressiveactionalliance.org to our
>>> new web site at paa-tx.org, and also point the other domain
>>> names there.
>>>
>>> So, which domains do we want to renew and/or add? And is it
>>> OK to stay with Verio?
>>>
>>> See the renewal notice I got from Verio below, if you are
>>> interested.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 03:32:09 -0400 (EDT)
>>>> To:
>>>> Cc:
>>>> From: "Verio Inc."
>>>>
>>>> YOUR DOMAIN NAME RENEWAL DATE IS ALMOST HERE!
>>>>
>>>> Dear Valued Customer,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for choosing Verio


Submitted by PAAMember on October 28, 2005 - 3:00pm.

Our hosting service runs on a LINUX machine - *NIX machines are case
sensitive, for example, you can create files with names like

TEST.txt and
test.txt

and they are succinctly different files, hence the case matters.
thx!

On Oct 28, 2005, at 12:48 PM, Brenda Fackler wrote:

> This is not my area of expertise but, I want to throw my two cents
> in anyway.
>
> You should probably register enough names that people find us when
> they want but, the search engines finding us should ease any
> troubles in that arena.
>
> However, from a branding perspective, it is important to be
> consistent. We should pick the one web address we want people to
> use, associate with, that is the most memorable, easiest to give
> out, or whatever and, use that same name on everything. Make it our
> public web identity. It's ok to have multiple addresses to catch
> people who mis-remember the address but, giving out multiple
> addresses decreases our brand strength. I know I'm suggesting
> terribly capitalistic strategies here but, they do work and we need
> to use all the tools in our toolbox. I'd probably recommend this
> address as the public brand....
>
> www.ProgressiveActionAlliance.org
>
> I did just try this address using the capital letters and my
> version of internet explorer had no trouble navigating to our site.
>
> In the end, I will be content with whatever you guys decide.
>
> Happy Friday!
>
> Brenda
>
> From: Bill Crosier
> To: PAA Web Team
> CC: Brenda Fackler
> Subject: PAA domain names renewals
> Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 12:09:23 -0500
> Some of the domain names we registered for PAA are due for renewal
> in about 3 weeks. These are:
>
> progressiveactionalliance.org
> paa-tx.org
> progressive-action-alliance.org
>
> In addition, I registered the following domains in January, so we
> won't have to worry about them for a while:
> progressiveactionalliance.com
> progressiveactionalliance.net
>
> I registered all the above ones through Verio, for $9.95/year
> each. Unless someone sees a reason to change domain name
> registrars, I'll just stick with them when we renew. The cheapest
> places I've seen are only $2-3 less than this and I don't know how
> reputable they are or whether it would be worth the trouble to
> change. Verio is a US and Australian company in case anyone cares.
>
> Do we want to renew all of the above domain names, and perhaps add
> paa-tx.com and paa-tx.net? Maybe even paatx.org?
>
> In case anyone has forgotten, we registered the .com and .net
> versions of progressiveactionalliance.org so no one else could grab
> them, and also so we could make sure that anyone who typed in any
> of these other variations would get to the right web site. (They
> all point to progressiveactionalliance.org.) We haven't done that
> yet for paa-tx.org, though.
>
> At least with our registrar, the "www." before each of our domain
> names is optional and it doesn't matter whether people type it in
> or not. (With some registrars, it apparently does matter.)
>
> I guess everyone remembers that paa.org, paa.com, paa.net, and
> paa.us were all taken by other organizations and are not available.
>
> We're not really using progressive-action-alliance.org and I don't
> know if anyone would ever try typing this in, so we may not need
> it. It is easier to read, though, and can be used on printed
> flyers, etc. if we want. Of course, the paa-tx.org is shorter and
> may be easier to use, as long as people don't miss the "-" when
> they type in the domain name. This may be a good reason to add
> paatx.org, and drop progressive-action-alliance.org, especially if
> we want to keep using paa-tx.org?
>
> Google, Yahoo, Lycos, and MSN all find
> www.progressiveactionalliance.org when you search for progressive
> action alliance, so that's good.
>
> As soon as we get all the content moved over from our old web site
> we can point progressiveactionalliance.org to our new web site at
> paa-tx.org, and also point the other domain names there.
>
> So, which domains do we want to renew and/or add? And is it OK to
> stay with Verio?
>
> See the renewal notice I got from Verio below, if you are interested.
>
> Bill
>
>
> >Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 03:32:09 -0400 (EDT)
> >To:
> >Cc:
> >From: "Verio Inc."
> >
> >YOUR DOMAIN NAME RENEWAL DATE IS ALMOST HERE!
> >
> >Dear Valued Customer,
> >
> >Thank you for choosing Verio


Submitted by PAAMember on October 28, 2005 - 3:00pm.

At 2:17 PM -0500 10/28/05, Sarah Gonzales wrote:
>Our hosting service runs on a LINUX machine - *NIX machines are case
>sensitive, for example, you can create files with names like
>
> TEST.txt and
> test.txt
>
>and they are succinctly different files, hence the case matters.
>thx!

Yes, Unix file names are case sensitive, but I didn't think that
capitalization made any difference for the domain-name portions of
URL's. As Brenda mentioned, I can get to our web site with various
capitalizations, such as what Brenda used. Works for me. Are there
cases where it won't?

Of course, if you try to download a particular file, the file name
portion of the URL must have the correct capitalization.

Bill

>
>On Oct 28, 2005, at 12:48 PM, Brenda Fackler wrote:
>
>>This is not my area of expertise but, I want to throw my two cents in anyway.
>>
>>You should probably register enough names that people find us when
>>they want but, the search engines finding us should ease any
>>troubles in that arena.
>>
>>However, from a branding perspective, it is important to be
>>consistent. We should pick the one web address we want people to
>>use, associate with, that is the most memorable, easiest to give
>>out, or whatever and, use that same name on everything. Make it our
>>public web identity. It's ok to have multiple addresses to catch
>>people who mis-remember the address but, giving out multiple
>>addresses decreases our brand strength. I know I'm suggesting
>>terribly capitalistic strategies here but, they do work and we need
>>to use all the tools in our toolbox. I'd probably recommend this
>>address as the public brand....
>>
>>www.ProgressiveActionAlliance.org
>>
>>I did just try this address using the capital letters and my
>>version of internet explorer had no trouble navigating to our site.
>>
>>In the end, I will be content with whatever you guys decide.
>>
>>Happy Friday!
>>
>>Brenda


Submitted by PAAMember on October 28, 2005 - 3:00pm.

you're absolutely correct, there should be no issues with case in
using domain names.
thx for the clarification Bill.

On Oct 28, 2005, at 2:41 PM, Bill Crosier wrote:

> At 2:17 PM -0500 10/28/05, Sarah Gonzales wrote:
>
>> Our hosting service runs on a LINUX machine - *NIX machines are case
>> sensitive, for example, you can create files with names like
>>
>> TEST.txt and
>> test.txt
>>
>> and they are succinctly different files, hence the case matters.
>> thx!
>>
>
> Yes, Unix file names are case sensitive, but I didn't think that
> capitalization made any difference for the domain-name portions of
> URL's. As Brenda mentioned, I can get to our web site with various
> capitalizations, such as what Brenda used. Works for me. Are there
> cases where it won't?
>
> Of course, if you try to download a particular file, the file name
> portion of the URL must have the correct capitalization.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>>
>> On Oct 28, 2005, at 12:48 PM, Brenda Fackler wrote:
>>
>>
>>> This is not my area of expertise but, I want to throw my two
>>> cents in anyway.
>>>
>>> You should probably register enough names that people find us when
>>> they want but, the search engines finding us should ease any
>>> troubles in that arena.
>>>
>>> However, from a branding perspective, it is important to be
>>> consistent. We should pick the one web address we want people to
>>> use, associate with, that is the most memorable, easiest to give
>>> out, or whatever and, use that same name on everything. Make it our
>>> public web identity. It's ok to have multiple addresses to catch
>>> people who mis-remember the address but, giving out multiple
>>> addresses decreases our brand strength. I know I'm suggesting
>>> terribly capitalistic strategies here but, they do work and we need
>>> to use all the tools in our toolbox. I'd probably recommend this
>>> address as the public brand....
>>>
>>> www.ProgressiveActionAlliance.org
>>>
>>> I did just try this address using the capital letters and my
>>> version of internet explorer had no trouble navigating to our site.
>>>
>>> In the end, I will be content with whatever you guys decide.
>>>
>>> Happy Friday!
>>>
>>> Brenda
>>>
>


Submitted by PAAMember on October 28, 2005 - 1:01pm.

ya know.... I'm pretty sure I already paid for / re-registered the
PAA-tx.org domain. Is that one up for renewal? I'll have to dig throw
my info for details. I see no reason to change registrars and agree
with your assessment.

I noted that DNS registration is getting kinda pricey - I think I
paid $75 for the next 3 years, so.... if you want to grab up the
other domains, more power to ya, would probably be a good idea.

can you let me know?
thx,

On Oct 28, 2005, at 12:09 PM, Bill Crosier wrote:

> Some of the domain names we registered for PAA
> are due for renewal in about 3 weeks. These are:
>
> progressiveactionalliance.org
> paa-tx.org
> progressive-action-alliance.org
>
> In addition, I registered the following domains
> in January, so we won't have to worry about them
> for a while:
> progressiveactionalliance.com
> progressiveactionalliance.net
>
> I registered all the above ones through Verio,
> for $9.95/year each. Unless someone sees a
> reason to change domain name registrars, I'll
> just stick with them when we renew. The cheapest
> places I've seen are only $2-3 less than this and
> I don't know how reputable they are or whether it
> would be worth the trouble to change. Verio is a
> US and Australian company in case anyone cares.
>
> Do we want to renew all of the above domain
> names, and perhaps add paa-tx.com and paa-tx.net?
> Maybe even paatx.org?
>
> In case anyone has forgotten, we registered the
> .com and .net versions of
> progressiveactionalliance.org so no one else
> could grab them, and also so we could make sure
> that anyone who typed in any of these other
> variations would get to the right web site.
> (They all point to
> progressiveactionalliance.org.) We haven't done
> that yet for paa-tx.org, though.
>
> At least with our registrar, the "www." before
> each of our domain names is optional and it
> doesn't matter whether people type it in or not.
> (With some registrars, it apparently does matter.)
>
> I guess everyone remembers that paa.org, paa.com,
> paa.net, and paa.us were all taken by other
> organizations and are not available.
>
> We're not really using
> progressive-action-alliance.org and I don't know
> if anyone would ever try typing this in, so we
> may not need it. It is easier to read, though,
> and can be used on printed flyers, etc. if we
> want. Of course, the paa-tx.org is shorter and
> may be easier to use, as long as people don't
> miss the "-" when they type in the domain name.
> This may be a good reason to add paatx.org, and
> drop progressive-action-alliance.org, especially
> if we want to keep using paa-tx.org?
>
> Google, Yahoo, Lycos, and MSN all find
> www.progressiveactionalliance.org when you search
> for progressive action alliance, so that's good.
>
> As soon as we get all the content moved over from
> our old web site we can point
> progressiveactionalliance.org to our new web site
> at paa-tx.org, and also point the other domain
> names there.
>
> So, which domains do we want to renew and/or add?
> And is it OK to stay with Verio?
>
> See the renewal notice I got from Verio below, if you are interested.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 03:32:09 -0400 (EDT)
>> To:
>> Cc:
>> From: "Verio Inc."
>>
>> YOUR DOMAIN NAME RENEWAL DATE IS ALMOST HERE!
>>
>> Dear Valued Customer,
>>
>> Thank you for choosing Verio


Submitted by PAAMember on October 28, 2005 - 3:00pm.

At 12:27 PM -0500 10/28/05, Sarah Gonzales wrote:
>ya know.... I'm pretty sure I already paid for / re-registered the
>PAA-tx.org domain. Is that one up for renewal? I'll have to dig
>throw my info for details.

I just checked the info on our Verio "Domain Manager" page at
http://199.239.254.34/stats , and it says these three .org domains
expire Nov. 18, 2005:
progressiveactionalliance.org
paa-tx.org
progressive-action-alliance.org

and these domains expire Jan. 14, 2006:
progressiveactionalliance.com
progressiveactionalliance.net

So it doesn't look as if any have been renewed.

Sarah, let me know if you need the password so you can log onto that page.

>I see no reason to change registrars and agree with your assessment.
>
>I noted that DNS registration is getting kinda pricey - I think I
>paid $75 for the next 3 years, so.... if you want to grab up the
>other domains, more power to ya, would probably be a good idea.

$75 for how many domains? This might be a lot expensive than
necessary. Verio and several other domain registrars charge $10/yr
or less. However, the registrar I've used (register.com) for several
years for crosierbiomed.com charges a lot more than Verio, and I'm
thinking about switching registrars if I can do it without it
disrupting my e-mail. I would have done that last year except I
didn't want to risk losing e-mail during the transfer.

Bill